Category: Church

I Don’t Know

Ray Van Neste posted a nice reminder for pastors about being willing to admit ignorance when asked a question they don’t know. It is only natural for a pastor to feel the pressure to come up with an answer for every question and scenario. They are charged with a tremendous responsibility to care for and protect a local body of believers. They are shepherds and stewards of God’s church. They spend several years studying at seminary and training in internships in order to help nurture believers in their faith and answer their questions along the way. Yet pastors are still human beings. Even with advanced education, there are still many things that they do not know. And that is ok. We should give them the benefit of the doubt and trust that they will do everything possible to answer our questions and care for our souls. If we do not believe this to be the case then we should not be members of the churches where we worship.

So pastors…be honest enough to admit ignorance in any moment and diligent enough to seek out the answers which presently elude you. And church members…give your pastors enough space to be honest about their ignorance and enough trust to know that they will do everything possible to help you work through your tough questions.

The Monday Muse: Service Evaluations

Ah yes…it has been a long time since we’ve had a Monday Muse question. As a side note, I have found that seminary makes blogging difficult. It is hard to carve out time for writing on a blog when you are spending most of your days writing for classes. The two things do not have to be mutually exclusive but blogging certainly doesn’t land high on the priority list in the face of Greek translation, grammatical analysis, and doctrinal papers. But like I said, this is a side note.

I have been wrestling with a particular question over the past few weeks. It pertains to the Sunday worship services though it could be applied to any type of similar service. A few years ago, I listened to a podcast by the 9 Marks pastors in which they described a process of evaluation that they apply to their Sunday services on a regular basis. They recall and discuss the good and the bad elements of the service in an effort to improve their time together. At the time, I loved the idea of the elders getting together regularly to evaluate the services. It shows that they care about what happens on Sunday mornings or, more broadly, any time the body of Christ gathers together. However, I have begun to rethink this practice more recently. Though I am certainly not opposed to constructive criticism, I wonder if regular evaluations can lead to a performance based view of worship gatherings. I am sure that it can be done well with care toward that concern. But I wonder, at what point do we become more focused on the delivery/style of the sermon, tempo and energy of the music, and the aesthetics of the meeting space instead of simply being thankful for our ability to gather together as one body to hear the word preached, to lift up one voice in worship, and to partake of the sacraments as one body?

Again, I know that the two things do not have to be mutually exclusive. I do think some type of evaluation is helpful from time to time. But I’m also trying to think about the wisest practices for the body of Christ and its leaders. So…more on that from me later. For now, let’s get the conversation started.

Do you think churches should have regular evaluations of the worship gatherings? Why or why not?

The Sunday Morning Scramble

That’s what it feels like for Annie and I on Sunday mornings…a mad scramble. We hit snooze a couple of times too many and before long we realize that we need to get moving if we want to have any reasonable hope of making it to church on time. On most Sunday mornings we are cutting it really close so that the smallest issue or setback can turn into a world-ending affair.

This past Sunday was no exception. We were subbing in as music leaders for some friends at City View Church near downtown Grand Rapids. Musically speaking, we were well prepared for that morning. We had been practicing the songs all week long. We knew what we wanted to do and how we wanted to do it. Yet mentally, I can speak for myself in saying that I was nowhere close to having a right focus or attitude toward leading the congregation in singing praises to God. As we gathered up our things and packed up the car that morning, we realized that something had been forgotten. So Annie ran back inside while I finished putting things away. As she got back into the car, I realized that I did not remember exactly how to get to the church. I started to pull it up on Google maps but my phone was conveniently running slow when I needed it to pull up the address instantly. Annie said that she would just pull it up on her GPS which just ended up annoying me even more since my phone should have made that unnecessary. When we finally got on the road, the GPS pointed us in the wrong direction from where we were coming out. So we had to make a u-turn in order to get back on track. Needless to say, I was less than thrilled with the morning’s events and found myself quickly sinking in the quicksand.

It is hard to know where to begin with that scenario. Time is always an issue for me no matter the day of the week. Living in the south for several years only seemed to enable my bad habit. There just never seems to be enough hours in the day to get everything done. I think that it is one of the reasons why people like myself are always running a few minutes late to things. We try to squeeze too many things into too little time. So it is always best to plan out your day and build in time for possible changes to your schedule of events or issues that pop up unexpectedly. Do not try to conquer the world in 16 hours. Be reasonable with what you can get done and be disciplined enough to work toward it. And leave early enough to enjoy that CD, audiobook, or sports talk radio on the ride over.

Time is far from the biggest concern here. This story reveals how quickly a person can be thrown off balance by things that really do not matter. To sum it up, we lose perspective far too easily. I allowed a forgotten item, an under-performing cellphone, and a wrong turn to dictate my attitude for a portion of the day. Of course, this phenomenon is not limited to Sunday mornings. It happens nearly every day with varying degrees of effectiveness. We can focus so much on these little events in our day that we completely forget about the majesty of God, the goodness of his creation (which we enjoy everyday), and the glories of the gospel that led to our salvation. The presence of God and his work in the world bear far greater consequences than an obstructed phone call or missed note in a song. I’m not saying that deficiencies and problems should not bother us to some degree. However, we should not allow them to overshadow the glory of God and good news of the gospel. He saved us from sin and death. He is redeeming the world so that one day we will not have to worry about injustice, disease, and death. He is sanctifying us everyday so that we are drawn further away from sin and closer to the heart of Christ. These are the things that define us as Christians.

On Sunday morning, I lost sight of what really mattered. But like every other moment, God corrected my blurry vision and allowed me to see the glorious riches of his grace. He allowed me to spend a few hours with a beautiful community of fellow believers so that we might all sing about the truths of an all-consuming gospel with one voice.

Too Young To Be A Pastor?

Carl Trueman has been sharing some thoughts on the call to ministry and the role of the seminary in affirming it. In his first post, Trueman offers a quote from Bishop Donald Robinson questioning the wisdom of appointing young men in their mid twenties to the office of elder. Robinson says,

    Two such problems may be mentioned: how can a man’s qualifications for such a  ministry be confidently judged at a time when he still lacks those criteria which were employed in the New Testament for admission to the ministry of oversight, namely, the satisfactory discharging of the duties of being the head of a household, the successful educating of his children, his aptness to teach and discipline his household, and his blameless reputation among his neighbours? The second problem is similar: how can such a young man adequately exercise the ministry to which he is ordained, when he has no experience (of the kind mentioned in the New Testament) on which to draw?

Generally speaking, I agree with their concern. Sociologists have been documenting the growing trend of delayed adulthood for some time now. Young people are waiting longer to take on the responsibilities associated with adulthood such as getting married, settling into a career, and raising children. Additionally, we live in a transient culture where neighbors seem to change on a yearly basis (if not sooner). It is hard to develop a reputation with the people around us when so many of us are moving in and out of neighborhoods on a regular basis.

However, I think that each case must be determined on its own merits. The general trend may tend toward a lack of life experience for most twenty-somethings. Yet I know of a few friends who were married, had children, served in their church, and worked a steady job before the age of 25. Some young guys have more life experience than others at that age. We should be careful not to disqualify all young men just because they are young.

As for experience, I assume that Robinson is speaking of ministry experience. I would agree that a man being called to the pastorate should have some exposure to vocational ministry and the responsibilities of an elder. A person can gain valuable experience by way of internships, associate positions, and mentoring relationships. In my limited experience, every pastor that I served with or sat under had some kind of training or experience prior to becoming a senior pastor. We can certainly debate what type of training is sufficient or adequate but I believe that the majority of pastoral candidates have some type of pastoral ministry experience. If Robinson is speaking of life experience then we are back to the earlier discussion on age.

Of course, Robinson’s points certainly depend on a church’s view of the pastor. The Bible commonly uses the word elder to refer to the office of overseer in the church. Personally, I think there are sufficient grounds in Scripture for a plurality of elders within the church. However, many churches confuse the roles and functions of elders, deacons, and trustees in such a way that raises questions about the responsibilities of the individuals within each group. Trustees may function as elders and elders may serve as deacons. In this case, it may be hard to determine what a young man is qualified to do and what areas need further development. The problem reminds us that Scripture should guide our understanding of the offices within the church and not the latest trends in secular leadership.

So again, I agree with the general principle. Churches should be careful not to appoint a man to the highest level of leadership on the primary basis of a theological degree. At the same time, they should not disqualify a man on the basis of his youth alone. The Pastoral Epistles clearly lay out the qualifications of an elder. Scripture should be our standard for judging the suitability of a pastoral candidate. The man who fits the description found in Scripture is fit to fill that role within our churches.

Shallow Small Group

This is a funny bit of satire to wrap up the day. It reminds me of the video on contemporary worship services that Northpoint put out a little while ago. Hopefully, you don’t have a small group like this…


The Monday Muse

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