Category: Politics

How Much Can You Learn From A Debate?

After watching tonight’s Presidential debate on foreign policy and national security, I am left wanting. My overall impression of the event goes something like this…sigh. I mean was it just me or did we hear the same things over and over. If that wasn’t bad enough, we’ve been hearing these statements for several months now. I really don’t think anything was made more clear. Many of the analysts rightly pointed out that this was not a victory for either side. Did we come away with a better idea of the candidates after this debate? No.

McCain played up his “maverick” status by pointing out several instances in which he opposed his own party as well as the current administration. He highlighted his vast experience in foreign affairs and policy which is a strong point for him. This point certainly plays out to his benefit. There is no denying that he has far more experience in foreign affairs than Obama. My favorite statement by McCain came when he mentioned (more than once) that he didn’t win Mr. Congeniality in the Senate. As he says, he is viewed as a “sheriff.” Funny stuff.

On the other side, Obama played his usual card by trying to tie McCain to the current administration. I thought he did fairly well considering that these issues were going to be weak points for him. He came off as thoughtful and his transitions were smooth in typical Obama fashion. He addressed everyday, middle class Americans which is a big bonus for him. However, he does come off as a bit naive regarding foreign affairs. As thoughtful as he is, he mentioned his policy of speaking with any world leader without conditions. Though I don’t know how I feel about preconditions, I do think his one size fits all type answer on addressing leaders was too much of a broad stroke. Yes, he did mention using military force when necessary but it seemed to me that his lack of experience showed a bit. My favorite (or most annoying) lines from Obama were the constant use of “the last 8 years” referring to failures of the Bush administration. Look…we get it.

A few general observations. First…was it me or did it sound like a high school cat fight? He said this. No I didn’t. Yes you did. Kissinger supports me. He didn’t say that. Yes he did. No he didn’t. Come on…what can be gained by this on either side? Who can you really trust is telling the truth without putting his own spin on it? Second…did John McCain often look annoyed with Obama? Is that why he had a hard time actually addressing Obama? There was certainly a contrast in demeanor between them. Third…did either of them ever answer the moderators questions regarding the economy? Man…the beginning was ridiculous. I mean, they both just ran all around those economic questions. Which leads me to my final observation/question…can we just get a straight answer? I felt like half the time neither candidate was answering the question or being straightforward with his answer.

So there you have it. My two sense on the debate for what it’s worth. Can you tell that I loathe politics?

The Monday Muse: Palin Predicament

Yes, I know it is Tuesday but I was sidetracked last night (in a good way) by a deep conversation with my wife concerning the church and our faith. When we finally finished, I had to hit the sack so I could get up for basketball this morning. So here we are on Tuesday looking at this week’s Monday Muse.

Last week I asked whether or not Sarah Palin’s presence on McCain’s ticket would have a positive or negative effect on his run at the presidency. No matter how you feel about Palin it is hard to deny the buzz she has created for McCain. One thought that has been thrown around lately is the legitimacy of her appeal to evangelical Christians. It seems that many evangelicals have jumped on the Palin bandwagon due to her conservative values and Christian faith. Recently, Dr. David Gushee joined the conversation by challenging the largely complementarian conservative evangelicals with the predicament of their endorsement and excitement. Gushee says, “It is an uncomfortable fact that many of the theologically conservative Christians who have endorsed Palin’s nomination would not be willing to endorse her or any other woman for service as pastor of their church.” Gushee sees an inconsistency in supporting a woman to take up a governmental leadership role and yet at the same time prohibiting her from being a pastor in a church. It might even be labeled hypocrisy from Gushee’s point of view. In closing, he believes Palin’s nomination “offers conservative Christian leaders the chance to rethink an archaic theological vision that wounds millions of devout Christian women and restricts the full exercise of their gifts.”

Being mentioned by name as “an influential advocacy group” by Dr. Gushee, CBMW (The Center for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood) posted a response on their blog to the questions raised by Gushee. In the end, CBMW sees no inconsistency with a women being able to take governmental office and yet not being allowed to pastor a church. As CBMW states,

The Bible calls women to specific roles in the church and home, but does not prohibit them from exercising leadership in secular political fields.  Therefore we must be careful to not go beyond the teaching of the Bible.  A president is not held to the same moral standards as an elder of a church.  While it is a blessing from God to have ethical or even Christian political leaders, the Bible places no such requirements on secular governments.  Even though the Bible reserves final authority in the church for men, this does not apply in the kingdom of this world.

Voddie Baucham is another evangelical who has recently spoken out about the Palin frenzy. He agrees that the excitement over Palin is perplexing for a whole different reason. As he puts it,

Complimentarians have basically argued in support of Governor Palin’s candidacy on the basis of the following:  1) there is no specific New Testament injunction against female magistrates.  2) we have old testament examples of women as magistrates.  and 3) she is not running for pastor-in-chief; therefore, we cannot hold her (or Senator McCain) to 1 Timothy 3/Titus 1 standards.   Taking their line of reasoning, what would stop evangelicals from supporting, say, a polygamist candidate?  Ridiculous?  Lets see.

So…I think there is a mixed response to Palin’s nomination and the evangelical response to it as it relates to the role and responsibility of a woman within her family and the role of women in society and church. So here’s the question:

Does Palin’s nomination create a difficult predicament for complementarians? Why or why not?

Personally, I’m not convinced by Dr. Gushee’s argument. I am thankful for his thoughtful challenge to complementarians though I don’t think it creates the difficulties he mentions. The difference between leadership in the general society and the church is the difference between spiritual leadership and governmental leadership. Being a government leader does not inherently make you qualified to be a spiritual leader. Though a woman may be qualified to lead a government, it does not mean she is called or even commissioned to lead a church. She may be a uniquely gifted person but God does not elevate the gifts above revelation. It comes down to a matter of obedience. This can be said for all of us, not just women. I digress for now…this is just to get things started.

The Monday Muse: Choosing Palin

Well…both the Democratic and Republican conventions have come and gone. Each convention had its own buzzworthy and historic moments. For the Democrats, it was Obama who seemed to electrify the Democratic crowd with his polished words and likability. Though skin color has no bearing on a person’s ability to lead, it doesn’t hurt that Obama is the first black candidate for either party. Watching his speech, I felt like I was watching a Beatles concert more than a campaign speech.

Due to the historic nature and excitement of Obama’s acceptance speech, the Republicans had a tough act to follow. And though McCain was the person accepting the presidential nomination for the Republicans, all eyes were on his choice for a running mate. Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, made her big debut by hitting the stage one night before McCain and wowing the crowd with her presence and toughness. In fact, some journalists and political analysts were saying that she was more impressive than Obama. She is definitely a fascinating figure in more than one way. First, she has the potential to be the first woman to hold the office of Vice President. Second, she is a “hockey mom” with five children, one of which has Down’s syndrome and another who is pregnant as a teenager.

It has been widely held in the media that Obama is the more intriguing and endearing candidate. However, McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin has seemed to stir things up a bit. So here’s what I’m asking you:

Does Sarah Palin affect John McCain’s chances of being elected president positively or negatively? Why?

I know political discussions can get heated so remember to play nice.

The Monday Muse: Single Issue Politics?

A few weeks ago I posed a question concerning the involvement of Christians in the political process. Jumping on the back of that question, I want to address another question relating to Christians and politics. It seems that conservative, evangelical Christians are often branded as single issue voters. What is the single issue? Abortion. Some thoughtful Christians argue that we must think and vote more broadly. They say that abortion is not the only issue to consider when voting for an elected official. On the other side of the coin, there are other thoughtful Christians who argue that abortion is the preeminent issue amongst all of the issues. Yes, we must consider the other issues but abortion trumps them in importance. So let’s put it on the table.

Does the issue of abortion carry greater weight and importance than all other issues? Or should we think more broadly even it leads us to vote for a pro-choice candidate?

Since this is a hot topic, please be respectful when engaging one another. In other words…play nice.

The Monday Muse: Christianity & Politics

I recently read that the Obama camp has hired a professor from Wesley Theological Seminary, Dr. Shaun Casey, to be his senior adviser for religious affairs. The evangelical vote has become a major point of interest for Obama as well as McCain. Many people may assume that religious conservatives and evangelicals alike will vote for McCain since both groups tend to associate with the Republican party. However, tension has grown within these assumed associations due to the frustration held toward the Bush administration.

A few months ago James Dobson, a staunch Republican, made it clear that he is troubled by McCain’s candidacy and will not be voting for him in the presidential election (not voting for Obama is a given).

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Combine all of these scenarios with the release of An Evangelical Manifesto, a document seeking to give guidelines for evangelical involvement in the public square, and you begin to see the difficulty this presidential election and the current landscape of America is creating. So here’s our question:

What level of involvement should we have in politics as Christians?

I know faith and politics can be a heated topic so while holding fast to your convictions, remember to discuss/debate with respect. I already have a follow-up question for next week that focuses a little more on the issues. Let the games begin.

(HT: Justin Taylor)


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